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		<title>Comment on On Perceived Value by Eddie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 19:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there are certain advantages to professionals who are at least theoretically-uninvolved with the subjects of their stories.  Newspapers and the news in general is in for humongous changes, and I&#039;m not saying otherwise.  But the dinosaurs of the field do provide a certain service which the new comers have yet to take over/replace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there are certain advantages to professionals who are at least theoretically-uninvolved with the subjects of their stories.  Newspapers and the news in general is in for humongous changes, and I&#8217;m not saying otherwise.  But the dinosaurs of the field do provide a certain service which the new comers have yet to take over/replace.</p>
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		<title>Comment on On Perceived Value by Stefan Claypool</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stefan Claypool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 22:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But is that irreplaceable in a world of instantaneous worldwide communication, where news can come not from reporters being sent overseas but from people already on the ground? And if so, how does that impact the market value of old media products?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But is that irreplaceable in a world of instantaneous worldwide communication, where news can come not from reporters being sent overseas but from people already on the ground? And if so, how does that impact the market value of old media products?</p>
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		<title>Comment on On Perceived Value by Eddie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 21:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, they pay for reporters to go to distant/dangerous locations.  Well-informed bloggers pretty regularly rely on the reporting done by institutions like the NYT, the Post, etc etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, they pay for reporters to go to distant/dangerous locations.  Well-informed bloggers pretty regularly rely on the reporting done by institutions like the NYT, the Post, etc etc.</p>
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		<title>Comment on On Rhetoric and Responsibility by Stefan Claypool</title>
		<link>http://www.stefanclaypool.com/2011/01/10/on-rhetoric-and-responsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-331</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan Claypool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 00:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blaming Sarah Palin directly: http://twitter.com/markos/status/23821038362034176

Blaming Palin and the Tea Party by association: http://twitter.com/larrydhalstead/status/23839195067846656
https://twitter.com/lorion/status/23825734170574849
http://www.newsweek.com/2011/01/11/homeland-security-study-warned-of-right-wing-extremism.html
http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2011/01/11/sneak-preview-of-the-cover-of-the-stranger-this-week-created-by-dan-savage-and-aaron-huffman

Blaming Republicans for the &quot;climate of hate&quot;: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/10/opinion/10krugman.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-f-kennedy-jr/post_1548_b_807713.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blaming Sarah Palin directly: <a href="http://twitter.com/markos/status/23821038362034176" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/markos/status/23821038362034176</a></p>
<p>Blaming Palin and the Tea Party by association: <a href="http://twitter.com/larrydhalstead/status/23839195067846656" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/larrydhalstead/status/23839195067846656</a><br />
<a href="https://twitter.com/lorion/status/23825734170574849" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/lorion/status/23825734170574849</a><br />
<a href="http://www.newsweek.com/2011/01/11/homeland-security-study-warned-of-right-wing-extremism.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsweek.com/2011/01/11/homeland-security-study-warned-of-right-wing-extremism.html</a><br />
<a href="http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2011/01/11/sneak-preview-of-the-cover-of-the-stranger-this-week-created-by-dan-savage-and-aaron-huffman" rel="nofollow">http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2011/01/11/sneak-preview-of-the-cover-of-the-stranger-this-week-created-by-dan-savage-and-aaron-huffman</a></p>
<p>Blaming Republicans for the &#8220;climate of hate&#8221;: <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/10/opinion/10krugman.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/10/opinion/10krugman.html</a><br />
<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-f-kennedy-jr/post_1548_b_807713.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-f-kennedy-jr/post_1548_b_807713.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on On Rhetoric and Responsibility by Kyle Simonson</title>
		<link>http://www.stefanclaypool.com/2011/01/10/on-rhetoric-and-responsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-330</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle Simonson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2011 23:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you give me the direct quotes you used in determining your first three memes?  who said it, when and in what source (TV, newspaper, radio show, etc.)  I&#039;m having a difiicult time finding the sources for these memes, other than conservative sources...stating the left has started this or that meme, blaming the Tea Party or Sarah Palin.  I read the Andrew Sullivan article you cite, and while he does show the Palin ad, he doesn&#039;t say they are to blame.  Palin&#039;s ad was just one of the most egregious examples in recent times, that actually involved the victim in the shooting, so it&#039;s use was appropriate.
While I agree that this lunatic had probably nothing to do with either party (and I think as we learn more the facts bear that out), something pointed him to Gifford.  A point the article you cite in Politico (a conservative blog by most accounts, including it&#039;s own) readily admits.  The same article that attributes the &quot;deftly pin this on the Tea Party&quot; quote to  an unnamed supposed &quot;Democratic Operative&quot; (what, is he a spy or something?) appears to be another example of the conservative&#039;s creation of these memes.  Besides Gary Hart&#039;s lame attempt to be newsworthy in the Huffington Post (I didn&#039;t even know he was still alive) I can&#039;t find any democrats or progressives outrightly blaming conservatives or the Tea Party or Palin for that matter.  But I have no trouble finding conservatives who claim they are being blamed.  So help me out.  Help me find these quotes.  And please don&#039;t take words out of context or misquote, ala Red State.  Their spinning rivals the Earth on it&#039;s axis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you give me the direct quotes you used in determining your first three memes?  who said it, when and in what source (TV, newspaper, radio show, etc.)  I&#8217;m having a difiicult time finding the sources for these memes, other than conservative sources&#8230;stating the left has started this or that meme, blaming the Tea Party or Sarah Palin.  I read the Andrew Sullivan article you cite, and while he does show the Palin ad, he doesn&#8217;t say they are to blame.  Palin&#8217;s ad was just one of the most egregious examples in recent times, that actually involved the victim in the shooting, so it&#8217;s use was appropriate.<br />
While I agree that this lunatic had probably nothing to do with either party (and I think as we learn more the facts bear that out), something pointed him to Gifford.  A point the article you cite in Politico (a conservative blog by most accounts, including it&#8217;s own) readily admits.  The same article that attributes the &#8220;deftly pin this on the Tea Party&#8221; quote to  an unnamed supposed &#8220;Democratic Operative&#8221; (what, is he a spy or something?) appears to be another example of the conservative&#8217;s creation of these memes.  Besides Gary Hart&#8217;s lame attempt to be newsworthy in the Huffington Post (I didn&#8217;t even know he was still alive) I can&#8217;t find any democrats or progressives outrightly blaming conservatives or the Tea Party or Palin for that matter.  But I have no trouble finding conservatives who claim they are being blamed.  So help me out.  Help me find these quotes.  And please don&#8217;t take words out of context or misquote, ala Red State.  Their spinning rivals the Earth on it&#8217;s axis.</p>
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		<title>Comment on On Technology and Expectations by Garth Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garth Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2010 16:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stef, just going through and reading your blogs.  You always seem to impress me with your &quot;range&quot;.  You even display a healthy dose of humility in questioning your writing and the effect that your age seems to have on your experiences...in an abbreviated word, DON&#039;T!

Your experience base is phenomenal, and young and old should find relevence in your musings.  I believe that you have absolutely hit on a key component of Apple success, and I am trying to emulate it with our new application.  I would like you to review it sometime...Garth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stef, just going through and reading your blogs.  You always seem to impress me with your &#8220;range&#8221;.  You even display a healthy dose of humility in questioning your writing and the effect that your age seems to have on your experiences&#8230;in an abbreviated word, DON&#8217;T!</p>
<p>Your experience base is phenomenal, and young and old should find relevence in your musings.  I believe that you have absolutely hit on a key component of Apple success, and I am trying to emulate it with our new application.  I would like you to review it sometime&#8230;Garth</p>
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		<title>Comment on On &#8220;Tax Cuts&#8221; by eddie</title>
		<link>http://www.stefanclaypool.com/2010/12/02/on-tax-cuts/comment-page-1/#comment-325</link>
		<dc:creator>eddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Dec 2010 16:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>businesses!  arg!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>businesses!  arg!</p>
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		<title>Comment on On &#8220;Tax Cuts&#8221; by eddie</title>
		<link>http://www.stefanclaypool.com/2010/12/02/on-tax-cuts/comment-page-1/#comment-324</link>
		<dc:creator>eddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Dec 2010 16:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The truth is that in this case I agree that tax cuts are probably a good idea, because I think you&#039;re right that having large amounts of free private capital to be invested will help recovery.  I&#039;m hesitant, because I don&#039;t know any actual hard numbers about where or how the top bracket is actually spending its money these days (I mean that in both a geographic and market sense), but in the absence of actually going and looking for those numbers, I&#039;d sign off on extending the cuts for a specific amount of time.

I don&#039;t agree, however, that unemployment benefits offer much notable incentive for people to not get jobs.  I think the vast majority of people drawing unemployment are not going to be satisfied to live on that money, and if anything the ability to stay clean, wear respectable clothes, buy gas, and pay an ISP will only help people to find new jobs.  Those are not insignificant costs, and they&#039;re definitely not insignificant parts of finding a job.  Furthermore, while not any and all spending is stimulus, I think that this IS - these people are going to put money in business right away, and they&#039;re going to be business that make things that everyone needs.

So I guess I&#039;d be happiest if we both extended the cuts and the unemployment benefits.  I hope I&#039;m not just going for the fallacy of the golden mean, but at least it&#039;s got an element of real compromise which perhaps each party could recognize as being in good faith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The truth is that in this case I agree that tax cuts are probably a good idea, because I think you&#8217;re right that having large amounts of free private capital to be invested will help recovery.  I&#8217;m hesitant, because I don&#8217;t know any actual hard numbers about where or how the top bracket is actually spending its money these days (I mean that in both a geographic and market sense), but in the absence of actually going and looking for those numbers, I&#8217;d sign off on extending the cuts for a specific amount of time.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t agree, however, that unemployment benefits offer much notable incentive for people to not get jobs.  I think the vast majority of people drawing unemployment are not going to be satisfied to live on that money, and if anything the ability to stay clean, wear respectable clothes, buy gas, and pay an ISP will only help people to find new jobs.  Those are not insignificant costs, and they&#8217;re definitely not insignificant parts of finding a job.  Furthermore, while not any and all spending is stimulus, I think that this IS &#8211; these people are going to put money in business right away, and they&#8217;re going to be business that make things that everyone needs.</p>
<p>So I guess I&#8217;d be happiest if we both extended the cuts and the unemployment benefits.  I hope I&#8217;m not just going for the fallacy of the golden mean, but at least it&#8217;s got an element of real compromise which perhaps each party could recognize as being in good faith.</p>
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		<title>Comment on On &#8220;Tax Cuts&#8221; by Stefan Claypool</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stefan Claypool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Dec 2010 01:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The purpose of unemployment benefits is to give people time to get back on their feet, but that time cannot extend indefinitely. There comes a point where rather than providing a social safety net, you begin subsidizing unemployment. This not only undercuts the incentive to find a job, but also removes from private hands money that could have been used for investment and job-creating activities, rather the simple purchase of goods.

I don&#039;t think that such spending can be classified as a &quot;stimulus,&quot; as spending money in and of itself is not necessarily stimulating to the broader economy. A real stimulus would be allowing that money to remain in the private sector for investment in new businesses that will create new jobs and spur a genuine recovery. That&#039;s not to say that the social safety net needs to be abandoned, but it is to say that when extending unemployment benefits indefinitely, we must consider A) the way it dampens people&#039;s search for employment and B) the opportunity cost associated.

As for how that relates to the tax issue: while I recognize the need to raise revenue, the reality is that our government will not shrink the deficit by raising taxes. Spending is simply too great for tax hikes to make a dent, and the effect that they have on the private sector investment is too damaging to make them worth the meager amount of revenue that they will raise. The only way to genuinely reduce the deficit is to cut spending, and to cut it substantially. Unfortunately, this is not likely to happen in any substantial way.

Allowing for the extensions to expire and for taxes to be raised makes the extension of unemployment benefits seem more necessary, as it will force both businesses and investors to tighten their belts, making job-creating activity less likely in the foreseeable future. Unfortunately, the extension of benefits will not actually aid in an economic recovery nor in getting people back to work. The result will be continued stagnation. Worse, we&#039;ll see an uptick in the real unemployment rate - that is, the official &quot;unemployment rate&quot; plus the rate of discouraged workers, or those who have stopped seeking employment for the time being, as more people become frustrated with the job market and given the luxury of doing so, will choose to wait for things to 
&quot;get better,&quot; although that anticipated recovery may be years away.

My personal opinion, then, is that the tax cuts should be extended, and access to long-term unemployment benefits should be restricted. These two steps do not in and of themselves guarantee an economic recovery, but they are the kind of actions that need to be taken to inspire job creation in this country - and that&#039;s the surest way to end the recession.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The purpose of unemployment benefits is to give people time to get back on their feet, but that time cannot extend indefinitely. There comes a point where rather than providing a social safety net, you begin subsidizing unemployment. This not only undercuts the incentive to find a job, but also removes from private hands money that could have been used for investment and job-creating activities, rather the simple purchase of goods.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that such spending can be classified as a &#8220;stimulus,&#8221; as spending money in and of itself is not necessarily stimulating to the broader economy. A real stimulus would be allowing that money to remain in the private sector for investment in new businesses that will create new jobs and spur a genuine recovery. That&#8217;s not to say that the social safety net needs to be abandoned, but it is to say that when extending unemployment benefits indefinitely, we must consider A) the way it dampens people&#8217;s search for employment and B) the opportunity cost associated.</p>
<p>As for how that relates to the tax issue: while I recognize the need to raise revenue, the reality is that our government will not shrink the deficit by raising taxes. Spending is simply too great for tax hikes to make a dent, and the effect that they have on the private sector investment is too damaging to make them worth the meager amount of revenue that they will raise. The only way to genuinely reduce the deficit is to cut spending, and to cut it substantially. Unfortunately, this is not likely to happen in any substantial way.</p>
<p>Allowing for the extensions to expire and for taxes to be raised makes the extension of unemployment benefits seem more necessary, as it will force both businesses and investors to tighten their belts, making job-creating activity less likely in the foreseeable future. Unfortunately, the extension of benefits will not actually aid in an economic recovery nor in getting people back to work. The result will be continued stagnation. Worse, we&#8217;ll see an uptick in the real unemployment rate &#8211; that is, the official &#8220;unemployment rate&#8221; plus the rate of discouraged workers, or those who have stopped seeking employment for the time being, as more people become frustrated with the job market and given the luxury of doing so, will choose to wait for things to<br />
&#8220;get better,&#8221; although that anticipated recovery may be years away.</p>
<p>My personal opinion, then, is that the tax cuts should be extended, and access to long-term unemployment benefits should be restricted. These two steps do not in and of themselves guarantee an economic recovery, but they are the kind of actions that need to be taken to inspire job creation in this country &#8211; and that&#8217;s the surest way to end the recession.</p>
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		<title>Comment on On &#8220;Tax Cuts&#8221; by eddie</title>
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		<dc:creator>eddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 20:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t really know what I think of the tax cut extensions/unemployment benefit expiration, because I&#039;m totally uninformed - though we both know where my proclivities lie.

But I&#039;m not sure if I agree that extending (or maintaining) tax cuts does not count as cutting taxes.  As I understand it, the tax rates are based on what were explained by the Bush administrations as temporary tax cuts.  If we don&#039;t repeal them when we were scheduled to, that still sounds like a tax cut to me, even if peoples numbers don&#039;t change between this year and next year.

I also don&#039;t think it&#039;s fair to say that, because the Obama administration spends tons of money, it has no standing to try to increase revenue in some fashion, or spend slightly less, or whatever.  I agree that it would be total bullshit for this administration to claim any kind of thirftiness, and while I *may* not agree with calling it fiscally irresponsible, I certainly wouldn&#039;t think anyone who said it was was being unreasonable.  But none of that has bearing on whether or not tax cuts (or continuing with previously cut taxes) is a good idea.

How does this issue interact with your opinions about unemployment benefits?  It seems like the argument that unemployment benefits, besides helping people who need help, qualify as fairly smart stimulus money because those people are going to go buy things they need and pay their utility bills and their rent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really know what I think of the tax cut extensions/unemployment benefit expiration, because I&#8217;m totally uninformed &#8211; though we both know where my proclivities lie.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m not sure if I agree that extending (or maintaining) tax cuts does not count as cutting taxes.  As I understand it, the tax rates are based on what were explained by the Bush administrations as temporary tax cuts.  If we don&#8217;t repeal them when we were scheduled to, that still sounds like a tax cut to me, even if peoples numbers don&#8217;t change between this year and next year.</p>
<p>I also don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s fair to say that, because the Obama administration spends tons of money, it has no standing to try to increase revenue in some fashion, or spend slightly less, or whatever.  I agree that it would be total bullshit for this administration to claim any kind of thirftiness, and while I *may* not agree with calling it fiscally irresponsible, I certainly wouldn&#8217;t think anyone who said it was was being unreasonable.  But none of that has bearing on whether or not tax cuts (or continuing with previously cut taxes) is a good idea.</p>
<p>How does this issue interact with your opinions about unemployment benefits?  It seems like the argument that unemployment benefits, besides helping people who need help, qualify as fairly smart stimulus money because those people are going to go buy things they need and pay their utility bills and their rent.</p>
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